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Swearing rules in the ES Discord Server

Community Input : Swearing rules In The Discord Server  

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  1. 1. How do you feel about the swearing rules

    • Keep the no swearing rules in place as they are, Bot to replace swears with full **** Censor
      7
    • Lax the no swearing rules, Bot to replace swears with "Ponified" censor (Buy some apples)
      48
    • Remove the no swearing rules only in NSFW category.
      6
    • Remove the no swearing rules completely across the server
      27
    • I have no preference
      5
    • Something not listed here which is explained in a post below.
      3


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Celestia    19

We've been looking at some aspects of the Discord server and are looking for your input. How do you feel about the current swearing rules in the Discord server, and to gather opinion on some alternatives proposed. Do let us know your thoughts with the poll and any comments below. We'll be looking at what suits best for the community. 

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Jade    0

Season 1 of MLP presented Equestria as an idealized land: being one with nature, pre Industrial Age, ponies being intrinsically kindhearted, innocent, and friendly. This was the foundation for early HP, and this was the vision Foxxxy had when she sought to build a community. She wanted a community that resembled Equestria. Innocent and kindhearted.
A nice vision, isn’t it? Well-meaning for sure. But it’s when you try to apply it that the issues come up
First of all, it enforces an interpretation of the show that is now unsupported due to revelations in recent seasons. Today, the show portrays Equestria as being a world very much like our own— ponies dominate it like humans, high tech, lots of mean and selfish pones.
So that vision is no longer coherent with people who stay up to date with the show.
Second is that there’s a lot of problems interpreting that kids show into an online community of teen and young adult AMAB’s of an internet culture where cursing is a causal, habitual gesture, and technically offensive behaviors can be friendly, and porn is so normal it’s weird to not include it. Foxxxy’s vision ignored these nuances, and it’s always unnecessarily divided the greater community
Foxxxy has left, but her vision stuck around for a while. We’re starting to realize that it’s silly to continue clinging to it though, and I’m grateful for that. Porn can happily coexist with true selves and not take away from server purpose, while giving a large amount of our community more opportunities for engagement.  Cursing can be acknowledged as being sometimes ok, and a more subjective, less dogmatic rule of “be respectful” would be what gets enforced.

My vote is to remove the no swearing rules completely across the server

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Bright Star    90

If option #2, have them rotate sometimes like "Buy Some Apples" or "Peeved". "Butts" has to be an option too.

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71~073~    4

Oprions 2 and 3 together, in essence. Lax the rules overall, and poni botting swears seems nice

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Star Shard    19

While I dont mind swearing to certain level. I also think there is a point where it just becomes vile. I am not going to argue for a filter that absolutely bans everything. But I do believe the worst should be left of the server. 

That there are other places on the internet where it is allowed. Does not mean we have to follow their standards. You afteral dont see forums about the saw franchise or voters registration post porn. Just becouse its users are of legal age. That we can does not mean we should. 

I dont think there is nothing wrong with maintaining an atmosphere fitting to the show. To strive to be a little bit better than the lowest denominator on the internet. Instead of turning the server into a wild west land where everything that can be done, should be done.

Hypnosis only works when it is taken seriously. Excessive swearing would only diminish that. 

 

 

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Personally, I’m my head canon the ponies of the show are acting and on screen, they have to be censored. Off screen however, as somepony who has become Applejack for a while and has even had her as a tulpa, I can tell you right now she has a potty mouth. This could be my influence of course, but the Applejack I had become and that was my tulpa was very adult. She was very NSFW, not necessarily in the sexual sense, but sometimes she was. It surprised me at first, but she explained to me she was an average everyday pony just like everypony else. That’s just my input at least, I also believe that sometimes cursing is necessary. On my server, I allow cursing in the nsfw channels, but I especially allow it in the vent chat, because sometimes... you just have to express your emotions and they are not always going to be child friendly. I appreciate the fact that you are reconsidering this, and I hope my opinion was worth reading. Thank you and have a great day!

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Jessica    2

Swearing is just another form of communication. Swearing has meaning behind it, and be it to express anger, pain, or just a general way of talking, its only wrong when you aim it at someone. Its like firing a gun. Its fun, can be calming to just go out to the range and put some rounds down range into a steel target, and just have fun, no one gets hurt. It only becomes wrong when you aim that gun at someone innocent. Much like with swearing, its fine if you're not aiming it at anyone, it can be a stress relief, it might just be habit to swear in your sentences. We're all mostly adults here, or near adults. We've all heard the words before (if not I am sorry, just personally sounds like you have been very sheltered), it doesn't hurt to allow swearing granted you don't do it at someone. 

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4 hours ago, 71~073~ said:

Oprions 2 and 3 together, in essence. Lax the rules overall, and poni botting swears seems nice

yeah I agree, swearing allowed in nsfw channels and ponified swears elsewhere

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I am for keeping swearing to a certain level in most of the channels. Allow it in nsfw and help-and-support and maybe some other channels. 

As for NSFW stuff some mentioned... we really have no need to expand that past the already established nsfw rooms. I strongly disagree that we need spicier rooms. Some of you like lewds, and that's fine, but I don't see why we would need to allow that here.

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Sable    41

I am still thinking about this, but here is my knee jerk response.  Part of me really worries about just a ban on it however I can see a little value in maybe some moderation.  If you ban it, of course then you have to enforce it which means that it can lead to other creative forms of abuse or a divide in the community.  An outright ban could serve to split the community up perhaps and have some leave to go to other servers.

My experience was that I have started to change the more I work on my transformation, I find myself becoming more positive and I dunno innocent? child like? for lack of a better term.  I find that I just don't have the desire to swear anymore.  I find that I can be more genuine and respectable I guess with out the need of it.  This developed without the ban.  But that is just my experience, maybe it is not gonna go that way for every pony.

Banning something outright can drive a problem underground and actually make it worse as we have learned with alcohol prohibition and the removal of sex education in southern schools and are now learning with other drugs as well.

I think that on the other hand, yes it can be distracting and destructive in ways to the community possibly, but I dunno if a ban is a solution.  I will have to think about it more.

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shiron222    106

I personally don't like a ban at all...I understand the need for moderation in language, since words do have power, but first and foremost I believe in freedom to say what you want within reason. Things like racist comments or hate speech are a lot different from words with a negative and powerful implication of anger or distaste. To me swearing too much is bad, but sometimes using a word like F!@# or S!@# can add emphasis to one's words...

 

Of course the problem with NO moderation is that things get out of hand, and they do get overused. Heck, I'm guilty of it on more than one occasion. That's why I voted to alter the censor to Equestrian equivalents. It allows us a modicum of self expression while reducing the genuine offense that comes from it.

 

And honestly?  Phrases like "Buck you" are waaaay more awesome than something like "F!@# You"

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sillynonny    8
17 minutes ago, shiron222 said:

I personally don't like a ban at all...I understand the need for moderation in language, since words do have power, but first and foremost I believe in freedom to say what you want within reason. Things like racist comments or hate speech are a lot different from words with a negative and powerful implication of anger or distaste. To me swearing too much is bad, but sometimes using a word like F!@# or S!@# can add emphasis to one's words...

 

Of course the problem with NO moderation is that things get out of hand, and they do get overused. Heck, I'm guilty of it on more than one occasion. That's why I voted to alter the censor to Equestrian equivalents. It allows us a modicum of self expression while reducing the genuine offense that comes from it.

 

And honestly?  Phrases like "Buck you" are waaaay more awesome than something like "F!@# You"

I'd like to add to this. From what I, in my admittedly limited experiences with the discord, could gather, is that other than a few jokes about "swears in a Christian server" the culture of the discord seems pretty unconcerned with general profanity.

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Col.Dew    10

Perhaps have it as a toggleable option if possible if not oh well i guess ponify it.

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sillynonny    8
On 2/3/2018 at 4:58 AM, Col.Dew said:

Perhaps have it as a toggleable option if possible if not oh well i guess ponify it.

I rather like this option. Is that possible within the framework of Discord?

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